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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 02:39 
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There still hasn't been an official retail release, that much I know. Looks like the thread on bluray dot com for TL and The Abyss BDs got bumped today. Looks like a lot of talk about the Spanish bootleg which appears to be a rip of the DVHS converted to 1080p. That could very well be what this is from. I certainly wouldn't buy the bootleg, but this might actually be the best way to watch this movie until an official BD happens (if it does). The DVD is pure a**, the LD is certainly better.
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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 03:10 
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So what is the source of the streamed 1080p version? I haven't watched it.
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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 03:54 
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OMG I own the DVD of True Lies and haven't watched it, I think it was one of my .50 cent purchases.
How bad is it :shock:
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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 04:01 
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rein-o wrote:
OMG I own the DVD of True Lies and haven't watched it, I think it was one of my .50 cent purchases.
How bad is it :shock:


There was, to my knowledge only one US DVD release. It was letterboxed, presumably based off the LD but just strictly worse. It's an early DVD so it has a lot of typical early DVD problems. It's one of the worst genuine release non-anime DVDs I have that also isn't like, Mill Creek multi-pack jam as many movies as possible onto one disc level s**t. If you've watched bootlegs, Mill Creek stuff etc then you have assuredly seen worse but it's not good.

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So what is the source of the streamed 1080p version? I haven't watched it.


Not sure.
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Mill Creek can be very good. The Knight Rider DVD set I have from them is cheap and super high quality with good menus and zero ads.

I think Mill Creek may be my favorite publisher...at least for DVD.
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PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 12:08 
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Seriously there's no point in owning True Lies without the killer LD audio
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I have it on LD, but another format that has high quality would be more convenient.
I only have one LD player. I have several BD players, only one device can play 4k BD though.
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Mill Creek can be very good. The Knight Rider DVD set I have from them is cheap and super high quality with good menus and zero ads.

I think Mill Creek may be my favorite publisher...at least for DVD.


I've not seen a DVD from them with good AV quality and I have watched a fair number.

I do not have their Knight Rider set but 90 episodes on 16 DVDs is pushing it. It's possible their DVDs have improved a bit. I have a few Blus from them that are OK.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 14:26 
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signofzeta wrote:
Mill Creek can be very good. The Knight Rider DVD set I have from them is cheap and super high quality with good menus and zero ads.

I think Mill Creek may be my favorite publisher...at least for DVD.


Don't get their Kids In The Hall set, you can watch it but its total s**t and really shouldn't be on a larger than 23 inch TV.

True Likes was one of the films I saw in the theater, its fun but also I don't know if it aged well, haven't seen it since
and never cared to own it until I found it at a thrift store and reading about it here.

Just like the Abyss, they are fun films but they do fill the Cameron category and I try to stay away from as many of his hype films
as possible.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 14:50 
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rein-o wrote:
True Likes was one of the films I saw in the theater, its fun but also I don't know if it aged well, haven't seen it since
and never cared to own it until I found it at a thrift store and reading about it here.

Just like the Abyss, they are fun films but they do fill the Cameron category and I try to stay away from as many of his hype films
as possible.


As a popcorn flick it's still great imo. Obviously it has warts, it's making fun of terrorism and the women are in predictable roles. It's not to be watched for the same reason you watch something from Renoir, Truffaut, Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, Ozu, Kobayashi or Lang. Like 90%+ of movies with Arnold in them you have to turn your brain off.

Oh and I'm sure Zeta hates it. ;)
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
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There is no Blu of True Lies. Only the D-VHS. There was also an HD broadcast version, I think that aired in the Netherlands? Not sure.

The D-VHS is still the best release along with the AC-3 LD for the audio imho.

Edit:

Here is the awesome Film Stories with more info.

https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/ ... k-problem/
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 16:31 
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Thanks for the link, Cameron should have spent more time releasing these older films rather than bothering to make these new POS films and
pumping the 3D BS.

But one does wonder now if something like True Lies would get the GWTW treatment due to the Middle Eastern outlook.
Was there anything in the Abyss that could be off putting that they wouldn't want to release it?
Its one of those films that was playing on HBO or Cinemax 3 times a day when it was on and I was truly sick of it and never bought a physical copy
but now do want one, guess I'll get the 50 cent or buck DVD when I find it and choke it down :lol:
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I think that is a large part of it regardless of what Cameron might say. Just one DVD release is telling too. I haven't seen Abyss in awhile. I'll pop in the LD today and report back but it's probably fine. Worth noting that Abyss has 10 official US DVD releases in comparison.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2020, 18:36 
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The best release of True lies is the DTS laserdisc. Its a late pressing by kuraray so the sound and picture is superlative. It really does hold up and I'd recommend it to anyone. Much easier to get hold of than the D-VHS and the pressing is so good I think it would even hold up on a low end player.

I think the reason why Cameron hasnt released the movies on blu is because hes busy filming a million avatar sequels.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2020, 01:39 
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Sorry to throw this off topic even more.
Watched about half of the TL DVD and wow its really horrible, one scene where Tom Arnold comes into the house wearing sunglasses, it looks like he has a tanline
on his face from the glasses.

On another note, it really doesn't put Middle Eastern people in a good light and really should not be released and maybe that's why cameron is
sticking with blue people.


EDIT: This is one of those films that I never had a need to own before but when I saw it at the thrift store I decided to get it.
This is not one of those films I need to own on LD. But I'm sure its much better on LD.


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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2020, 13:16 
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I only got a JP LD of True Lies with dolby surround audio, but it still sounds great IMO. It also has the burned in english subs for foreign dialogue which is nice.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2020, 01:05 
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Factor you need to look at is who owns the content now moving forward?

AT&T, Disney, Comcast, Sony, and to the lesser extents Amazon and Netflix. Between these six companies, nearly all movies and television content created in North America since the dawn of time belongs to these six companies, and only one of these companies has a invested interest in physical media sales, that being Sony. And all six companies, Sony included, own and push their digital streaming services. Because of this, I personally do not see physical media, for videos at least, surviving beyond 2030, unless something unforeseen transpires.

I've been buying lots and lots of VHS tapes the last two years. I own several VCRs that work, and I can buy a VHS tape sometimes for as little as twenty-cents, rarely for more than fifty-cents, any day of the week at thrift stores. And why not? Fifty-cents for a movie on this old try'd & true format that I can watch at my own leisure. or $9.99+tax & up for the same movie on DVD or BD? Does that even make sense to intentionally spend easily eleven times more the price of the VHS tape for the exact same movie? Is the image and sound quality better on the DVD or the BD, absolutely, but if I'm only going to watch the movie one time or possibly more, does it even matter? And I realize this is a highly subjective view on my part, but money is stupidly tight for me, and if I can buy hours and hours of movies and programs I want to watch for literally less than the price of a hamburger, then why not?
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2020, 03:20 
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This reminds me, I was at my local thrift stores on Friday.
VHS was free at the one store, DVDs were a buck and 5 for a dollar CDs.

Don't really know how you can beat that over paying for downloads only once.
But now I do have too many CDs and DVDs in the house :lol:

I don't own, must correct, I do own a VCR inside a 13 inch TV that is in my work room but never cared for tapes, will get DVDs for a buck or two unless its
rare but those are ebay only stuff.
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PostPosted: 06 Jul 2020, 08:41 
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Most if not all VHS releases are pan and scan so really doesnt make it a viable format for watching movies in this day and age. That's why the Laserdiscs are so attractive because at least you can watch the film in oar. VHS for me is only for native 4:3 material like TV shows. Not for watching scope movies.
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 Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead?
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2020, 09:13 
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Is bluray/4kbluray rental stores a thing in USA?
There is a local rental store near me, seems to still be quite busy in the evenings.
Its game rentals and bluray, some dvd but not much.
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