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gypsy
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Post subject: Re: Subtitles on dvl-909 Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 00:03 |
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lucky88 wrote: Thanks to all who replied. Running hdmi signals through a Samsung tv so assume the subtitles on the laser disks are being stripped.not sure how cc decoder would work but will look into it. May just have to live with it. I don't know how all this works but I think it would be more likely that the tv doesn't have them than they are being stripped by a device in the chain. Can you try composite into the tv directly or does it not have a composite input? That would be a surefire way to check.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Subtitles on dvl-909 Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 23:03 |
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lucky88 wrote: Running hdmi signals through a Samsung tv so assume the subtitles on the laser disks are being stripped.not sure how cc decoder would work but will look into it. Well I'm assuming you're using some sort of a video processor or just a convertor box that lets you hook your DVL-909 to your TV via HDMI, so you would place the CC decoder between that and the player. Unless you're talking about LD+G subtitles, in which case you would need a different decoder but it's placement in the chain would remain the same.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Subtitles on dvl-909 Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 22:01 |
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lucky88 wrote: Using a lumigen video processor between laser disk player and hdmi input into Yamaha receiver. Well then you would place the decoder between the player and the lumagen, but you just gotta make sure you get the right kind of a decoder; I notice a lot of the ones on ebay only have RF connectors for TV broadcasts, not composite.
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takou
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Post subject: Re: Subtitles on dvl-909 Posted: 06 Sep 2019, 19:08 |
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blam1 wrote: Subtitles on the DVD are NOT the same as Closed Captions on LD. Subtitles on DVD are a data stream superimposed over the picture in player. This data is NOT encoded in the VBI of the video signal as is done with CC. Not entirely true. All of my early (1998-2000) US DVD's had CC signal in addition to the standard DVD subtitles. Don't know if it's still the case, don't own any DVD anymore. Edit: I found an example with the cover of Dogma on US DVD, see the CC logo squared in Red ? I remember now the big difference: - CC on DVD were like CC on LD, I used the same CC Decoder to display them, and it was always SDH English subtitles. - Subtitles on early DVD were simple subtitles, not SDH subtitles, and when english ist not your first language, you have to get the SDH.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Subtitles on dvl-909 Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 01:11 |
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lucky88 wrote: Takeshi66. Experts ran different setups and concluded that hdmi is not the problem since getting subtitles from the DVD player but not ld player. You suggested a cc decoder from eBay. Would a telecaoption 4000 work? A number of them for sale. If not, what would you suggest? Thanks again for all your help. Unfortunately I have no experience with these decoders, but looking at that particular model I see it also only has RF connectors rather than RCA ones, except for "audio out", I wonder what that does? Text to speech for the blind? Anyway, I'd recommend any model that has composite in and out. I actually looked through google and turns out we had another thread about this sort of thing! Help with choice of closed caption decoderLooks like that HQ-2000 thing is what you're looking for, but the TV Guardian 101 will serve you just the same as long as you don't need to move the captions around. But again, what blam1 said. Closed captions are not the same thing as DVD subtitles.
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