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Post subject: Re: Which cable do you use to hook your LD player to your TV Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 01:33 |
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audioboyz1973 wrote: Well if you want to use that fancy comb filter in the CRT then it has to be composite straight to the TV. Composite to DVDO you're using the comb filter in the DVDO, s-video to DVDO you're using the comb filter in the player.
Frankly I'm kind of disappointed (but not surprised) a thread like this still even exists where people haven't done some basic research and worked it out for themselves...... Is the bolded part accurate though? When I process SVHS the DNR/ghosting disappears, so I assumed the processor was killing the filtration (by taking the data raw or something). Sorry if this is an instance where you're 100% certain because you use a DVDO.
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Post subject: Re: Which cable do you use to hook your LD player to your TV Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 13:47 |
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snipesbackhand wrote: audioboyz1973 wrote: Well if you want to use that fancy comb filter in the CRT then it has to be composite straight to the TV. Composite to DVDO you're using the comb filter in the DVDO, s-video to DVDO you're using the comb filter in the player.
Frankly I'm kind of disappointed (but not surprised) a thread like this still even exists where people haven't done some basic research and worked it out for themselves...... Is the bolded part accurate though? When I process SVHS the DNR/ghosting disappears, so I assumed the processor was killing the filtration (by taking the data raw or something). Sorry if this is an instance where you're 100% certain because you use a DVDO. The entire reason for the existence of the comb filter is to separate the composite video back into separate Y/C signals. So if you connect the player to anything using s-video (separate Y/C) you've used the comb filter in the player to do that and the comb filter in whatever you've plugged it into is bypassed. There needs to be a comb filter somewhere in the chain though. Which comb filter is better (or perhaps does your player suffer a poorly recombined composite out) is a whole different discussion. Comb filters and how your connections determine where it falls in the chain should be LD101 for anyone who considers themselves a collector/enthusiast. (Unless you collect LD's to just hang on the wall!)
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Post subject: Re: Which cable do you use to hook your LD player to your TV Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 13:54 |
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forper wrote: Well I thought I knew, "always use composite" because LD video is composite. But then some here started saying Svideo was better and I got confused so wanted to confirm.
I just want the maximum picture information passed from the player and that's not necessarily easily perceptable in a comparison, on some discs you might think Svideo looks better but you actually might not be getting as much information as with composite.
Using the DVDO is non negotiable for me, there are so many widescreen titles I have that need overscan/underscan to set up the picture right. Then again I might consider straight composite to the TV for 4:3 content.
When I say the TV has the best comb filter, I don't really know if thats the right term, it has something called super hi fine pitch mode and provides a superlative picture. I'm not sure the source has to be through composite to take advantage of this. Can't pictures pass through 2 or more comb filters? Can't it be like audio were you can run through multiple DACs to "clean up" the sound? I get your need for zooming etc with the DVDO; I certainly couldn't live without a video processor. Some Sony models do have a reputation for excellent comb filters, you could try searching on the model number here and more broadly to see if it might be one of them? LD players have multiple outputs so you could probably fairly easily hook it up all three ways and do some comparisons with several favourite discs you're familiar with. Also a good idea to adjust all three paths properly using something like video essentials so you're comparing "apples with apples" not different settings for colour etc coming into play.
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Post subject: Re: Which cable do you use to hook your LD player to your TV Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 06:52 |
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kid_dynamo wrote: I use S/PDIF digital coax cables for video since they have better shielding than most of the regular composite RCA cables I have lying around. I tried S-video once but it didn't work properly, the video had a chequered look to it. My DVL 909 does have SCART output since its the European model but I've never used it before as there isn't much point, probably get more noise than with the RCA output. That's a bad s-video cable. Buy anything proper brand name and that won't occur.
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