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 Post subject: Is it worth stocking up on spares?
PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 14:50 
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If you come across any spares for your LD player, do you think it is a wise idea to snap them up and keep a stock of spare parts to hand?
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PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 15:07 
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How many LDs do you own and how much do you like the format?
If you can answer those then you can answer your original question.
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PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 15:27 
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About 60 or so. Though I only buy titles that are unavailable on a better format, or if they are very niche and/or rare, or if I find some real bargains sub €2 that I can take a blind punt on before upgrading to a better edition.

I've been collecting around 10 years and have no intention of giving my discs up unless they rot in to oblivion.

Guess I answered my own question huh?

Do any of you stock up on spare parts?
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 Post subject: Re: Is it worth stocking up on spares?
PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 15:54 
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Are you kidding? Yes. I have spare grip rings and seven players. Collecting LD with one player is walking a tightrope.
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PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 17:02 
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I don't have spare parts but do own 4 LD players, which my wife didn't know of until quarantine cleaning.......
My players are too old for spare parts but if they started to go I'll pickup cheaper non working players to part out.

Just found out my synth stopped working, another thing to fix during qtine.
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PostPosted: 01 May 2020, 18:05 
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I should have more spare parts but I don’t because I have so many players (12 working and 1 dead) that don’t get used all that much so I figured I can survive for now.

If push came to shove, I’ll buy more busted players in the future to get a whole lot of parts for cheap. My one broken unit can provide parts for four of my working players.
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PostPosted: 02 May 2020, 13:49 
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i've one fully functional 1988 PIONEER CLD-3030, and three more worth of spare parts.

i don't really have many discs (about 100 or so) compared to the truly hardcore around here,
and i don't play them too often, so i figure my one player will likely be good to go for the remainder of the format's practical life...
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PostPosted: 02 May 2020, 18:52 
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If you are in for the long run with ld’s... YES
I only buy players that can easily be repaired meaning I get machines with common loading mechanisms etc.
Hf9G , cld-d70...
Cld-d925 ,515 denon clones...
What started like fear for breakdown ended up hoarding players for me

I managed to buy new spare parts directly trough Pioneer Belgium years ago.
Ordered many belts, M holders, prc hubs, can gears... even spindle motors.
From time to time I also scrap players that had a rough life. Some collections I buy come with one or more player(s)
Most sellers get rid of their collection since they don’t feel the need anymore to get things repaired or even don’t have a clue if it is possible to begin with.
My advice,
Get one or more player of the same model
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PostPosted: 02 May 2020, 20:49 
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I have at least two of each player model I own, with a few exceptions. My current player count is 78 + 2 that I'm offering for sale (CLD-3070 & RF DVL-919). I've got bits and pieces of 13 other players that I use as spares for junked ones I buy on eBay and fix up. The two I have for sell are rebuilt units. I expect to have a CLD-D505 rebuilt and for sale next week.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2020, 12:57 
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The idea of buying up machines for parts doesn't work if it's a small subset of the the parts that commonly fail.

For example, if a loading belt turns to goo owing to the passage of time, then the belts in the spare machines will go the same way. The same goes for electrolytic caps and probably other parts too.

What we really need is a database of part definitions. Not just part numbers from service manuals, but actual physical definitions, so that generic substitutes could be sourced. Examples of this would be

    Belt lengths and cross-sections
    3-d printer definition files for known weak parts like M-holders, carriage tracks, etc.

For me, this would be an great extension to the LDDB hardware section.

We also ought to be concentrating more on preventative maintenance. Replacing electrolytic caps, refreshing lubricants, cleaning ... more?
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PostPosted: 03 May 2020, 13:19 
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never ever use second hand loading belts . only when in doubt of the issue! if it turns out to be the belt replace it with a brand new one!
I recap my PS boards from time to time just to have a spare around.
Even the most tiny button is worth a lot these days to have for spare part use.
Did invest in new spare parts back when they were available. m holders, prc hubs ( they easily break one of it's legs) the cam gear is another one that tends to break the pin.
underneath the drawer there is also a plastic thing that tends to break a pin ...
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PostPosted: 10 May 2020, 19:06 
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I try to have at least one spare player of each model I own. Some components, especially in the power supply, like specific crystal oscillators operating on specified mhz are not likely to come by, even at Mouser. They may not fail as easily as a capacitor, but they are important parts nonetheless. I only salvaged belts as a last resort if new ones are not available.
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