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 Post subject: Re: RAREST LASERDISCS and THIER PRICING
PostPosted: 04 May 2020, 06:50 
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Yeah, you got me, it's Traci Lords, Talk Dirty to Me 3.

I did see some blank recordable discs on ebay about a year ago. The listing had 3-5 RLV's, some written, some blank, I tried to bid over $50, but got outbid at last minute, have not seen any RLV on ebay since.

I just bought a 3M disc, I believe those were made to order laserdiscs, this one reads:
JTLS/SOUTHCOM on the back
The only info I can find on JTLS is some Joint Theater Level Simulator for the Southcom defense of US.

I think it is just a way of storing or displaying a background for a large simulation system. I did some searching on the web and eventually came across some text in a document that suggests that laserdiscs were used in this simulation system to provide like perhaps a background map.

The disc is still sealed, some I am just gonna open it and see what it is.

Also, I have Dario Argento's World of Horror GOLD laserdisc, it is not so rare, but really cool.

I guess my reason for this forum is just to start the dialogue, I am so curious about the rare titles out there.


Yeah, the 3M sleeves are usually made to order discs, I have a few in my collection from PSA Airlines, and cosmetic companies, as well as ones used in a Nasa Exhibit.

I understand you were just trying to start a conversation, but coming in here bragging about how much money laserdiscs have made you isn't the best choice when the community here are mainly collectors and enthusiasts who don't like people inflating the price of Laserdiscs more than they already have been.

I made a similar mistake when I joined the website, I hope you manage to find your little niche here and hopefully engage in some more constructive dialogue. :)

Also, please if you can get some footage of that 3M disk up, I remember someone having something like that for sale in Florida a few months ago but he wasn't interested in selling or digitizing (I think I saw him on reddit and offered to digitize it myself?).
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 Post subject: Re: RAREST LASERDISCS and THIER PRICING
PostPosted: 04 May 2020, 15:56 
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I think he won his own thread, that’s the problem. He isn’t taking about what’s good on LD, he’s only interested in expensive junk. Well, he has illegal child pornography that’s worth hundreds. He wins. CONGRATULATION.
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PostPosted: 06 May 2020, 20:37 
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My intention was not to "brag" about what I sold on eBay, but to provide some recent real world eBay sold pricing.
I do want to find out how rare the Dario Argento gold disc I have is and some of my weird rare karaoke laserdiscs, etc.

I am not a laserdisc enthusiast. When the technology came out, it was too expensive for the players, discs and other A/V stuff needed. Now, I am finding discs at the goodwill for only a few dollars. I am finding people selling bulk lots for under $1 each and some giving away hundreds of laserdiscs to the first taker.
Some people see no value in laserdiscs and others see high value in the rare discs.
I have bought 5 laserdisc players and most of them have broken or at least have U1 drawer intermittent error.
I have found I can't test too many laserdiscs, without breaking down a player. I try not to let them flip sides, as that mechanism fails most often behind U1 drawer issues.
So, I don't intend to setup a whole A/V system to play laserdiscs, but I am happy to gather laserdiscs and sell them for a bit of profit, to help distribute these laserdiscs to collectors who may want to setup a whole dolby DTS, Hi-Fi A/V system of their own.

I am taking large collections, breaking them up into rare and other valuable lots and then selling/distributing them to the multiple collectors. I am reversing laserdisc hoarding. As far as inflated prices, I try not to ask too much, around what the disc sells for on eBay weekly. My intent is to sell all my discs, and I found selling them in bulk to another collector only gets me a dollar or two for each disc. So, I took out all my unopened laserdiscs and listed them all individually and that is working well. I identified the rarer ones that sell for more on eBay and sold those, but I can't find any info on some of the discs, so I started this forum to get info on my discs, but also I would like to share my experience trying to sell hundreds of laserdiscs and perhaps get some info on what super rare discs to look out for in the future.

I will gladly share the contents of my mystery 3M disc when I get it,
Thanks to the lovers and haters for keeping this forum going.
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PostPosted: 06 May 2020, 20:54 
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“I’m here to profit and only profit off you people and your scene that I personally have no interest in. Having apparently maxed my dollar from Facebook I was hoping to somehow milk actual fans of any sort of information that I might use to make even more money off them.”

At least he’s up front about it.
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PostPosted: 06 May 2020, 22:06 
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If you are looking to find out what are the so called "rare" (or valuable"?) discs are you can get quite a bit of info here on this site.

On the main page under the Catalog bit go to TOP 100-BEST BIDS & you will find some helpful details there.

What is rare or valuable to some people are of no rarity/value/interest to others. Some so called collectors are only interested in late release titles & quite a few of them are pretty naff. Others are interested in music LDs & some of them can be rather pricey when they pop up for sale. The range of interests can be quite eclectic & some people can be waiting for years for a particular title to come up for sale but they may be the only one looking for it so even then it is only of value to them, not monetarily though.

I doubt you will make money as such buying & selling LDs unless you are lucky & pick up a lot with mainly late release titles, so called scarce music or animation titles - more often than not you will likely end up sitting on multiple copies of titles that really are of no value that you will find hard to even give away.

Sure others here will be in a better position to advise but you are looking to profit from what is a limited market with people who are more than likely to avoid a blatant move to max prices.

Perhaps best to try another collectable field without telling them you are looking to profit from them while asking them basically what do I have to sell you to make money from you, not best practice - everyone to their own thing though.

If you pick up any motorsport, F1 or related titles I may pay a £ or $ or two for them but the postage costs may kill the deal.

Are you actually for real or are you taking the p**s?

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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 00:42 
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Its really amazing that it really takes 10-15 years to get a nice collection of stuff, know what is and isn't overpriced due to crashes etc.
And then you get these make quick money people who sell stuff for a month or two and try to become experts and overcharge people.

I only overcharge on stuff that will take you or me another 2-10 years to find again and if you do you won't get it for the same condition or price.
For example my Astro Boy box, I've seen it on YJ for 400-600 but you have to pay shipping, the two I've seen on there are not as good of condition
and missing booklets or boxes etc etc.

Its not just about pricing stuff high, its also about what really commands a price and what you are hoping for.
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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 01:09 
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Another thing with LD is that LD isn’t Star Wars or the Sega Genesis or something where every moron collector wants every single title. LD was for every kind of video program imaginable.

I have like 12 music LD. ldfan has like 3000 and probably he’s added as many to the LDDB as anyone on earth not named admin. Ldfan and I both love LD but our collections are nothing at all alike. I mainly do anime in the same way the Jesus guy loves violent misogynist horror s**t. Everyone with a Neo Geo wants, to some degree, every title made for the system but couldn’t pay me to take half the LD library.

The stuff isn’t that *simple*. You may as well ask two dozen people what their favorite breed of dog is, or color, or flavor of popsicle. (And then once find out what it is, slap a price on it.)
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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 01:26 
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Shouting rare, or in this case rarest, instantly makes me suspicious. Guess I can blame ebay for that.
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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 06:28 
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Mostly my LD buying and selling is hit and miss.

I bought music laserdics only from a large stack at a garage sale. I paid about $1 each and sold 10 on ebay for $3-20, with another 10-15 sitting on ebay, with no watchers.

I bought some Opera laserdiscs from the goodwill at $2 each. But mostly I see people bundling Opera for $1 or so each, so I would be lucky to break even with those.

Most of my luck has been from answering a free laserdiscs ad on craigslist. I got 100+ anime titles and sat on them for a year. Last month I began listing them and they ALL went quickly.

And recently I found a guy selling Song of the South and Decline of Western Civilization and a few others on craigslist for $100. I quickly called and offered $80 and got it. He had a laserdisc player too, and I talked him down from $60 to $40. The player has a drawer loading issue, but I fix it by tapping on the drawer hard after it closes and that helps it load every time.
I sold the Song of the South for $220 on ebay and I have the Decline for $120 on ebay.
This is my best success so far, besides the lucky freebie laserdiscs.

Now my mystery 3M disc is here, have to go get it from the mail, paid $30 with free shipping, wonder what is on it..........

OK, included is a pic of this odd (RARE?!) japanese kids show karaoke LD's. My thought is that if the main female star grew up to be very famous in Japan, maybe the discs would be worth more than standard karoake discs, which I perceive to have little or no value except in bulk.

P.S. - not sure what "are you taking the p**s" means, so.... hard to respond. I want to share my rare finds and see other rare finds. I like seeing new art for old movies like on japanese versions of common movies like Animal House (cool collage on Japanese version)


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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 12:59 
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eegor3000 wrote:
P.S. - not sure what "are you taking the p**s" means, so.... hard to respond.


Really?

Are you for real, are you joking, having a bit of fun..... taking the p**s.

Seriously most sellers of any "collectables" would not be going onto a forum regarding the subject asking for details of what to sell to them to make a profit from them. Now profit is not a dirty word & all that but there are ways to find things out & I don't think you have been in any way subtle on this.

There are sellers that have little or no real interest in the LD format but they don't come on asking basically how do I make money out of you guys & then asking what you have to do to do this, rare discs - pricing - values. Yes get others to tell you what to sell them then make as much as you can from them. Try doing that on some of the other niche interest sites/forums & see the reaction you would get, it would not be the rather mild reaction you have got on here.

Nothing against you & no digs but I do feel that your approach has not been subtle in any way.

What is your hobby or interest if you have one & I will see if there is any way to make a bit of money from you but might need some advice from you first.
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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 18:31 
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There are successful sellers (not many) here. I don’t mind paying them a little extra for an individual disc or a bunch. I totally understand they probably get discs for a penny on the dollar and now selling for 20 to 100 times of that.

Why am I ok with this?

1- Because these sellers have done the leg work of buying huge lots and separating valuable/desirable ones.

2- These sellers have the knowledge and experience of years. They know which lots to invest in. In a way they know what vast majority of the people look for and they hunt those down. And again in a way they do the monitoring the internet, local adds and other means to obtain these discs.

These above two are values. I can spend weeks/months seeking on the internet and local adds for a title/s I am after. I might have to buy a huge lot for that one specific title and potentially drive more than I would like. There is the risk of rot, incorrectly advertised version of the title (happens a lot) and they might even end up being CEDs ;)

Depending on how much your time is worth to you and how bad you want these discs, you might be ok with paying extra to a reputable seller and get the titles you want (and be done). The keyword is “reputable” seller here. I know that the grading is accurate, I know the advertised title is the correct version. I know the title will arrive to me in a correctly packed package.

Based on your posts, you are doing the item# 1 above. That’s some value and justifies some profit. However you seem to be asking the item# 2 to us. Sure no harm in asking but it is not realistic to get years worth of knowledge and experience from a few posts. You really need to spend months, potentially years watching sales, conversations and making your own statistics.

You also need to prove your skills in packaging and how to meet grading expectations of your buyers. LD sales is a different animal. You will see that those super rare discs will sell for really high dollars if they are in extreme mint condition but less than stellar ones will sit on your shelf (even if you discount them %80 off).

You got a lot of researching to do if you want to capitalize on LDs. It is not as big of a market as it seems. There is really a handful of titles you will get the money you got for the Song of the South.
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PostPosted: 07 May 2020, 20:55 
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Thanks for the above post substance.

That I think really does cover how many of us have got the collections we now have.

You have put that all very well & I hope a certain person really takes note of your excellent summation.

Cheers to all here :thumbup:
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PostPosted: 08 May 2020, 11:19 
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Btw, those pics you posted, they are not in Japanese but Chinese. There is a difference. Here is a translation of what it says on the covers:

小天使 = little angel
童話 = children's fairy tales
兒歌 = children songs
伴唱 = vocal accompaniment
系列 = series
珍藏版 = collector's edition
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PostPosted: 08 May 2020, 16:41 
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I knew they were Chinese, didn't know what it said, but didn't want to give the fool more info so they could gouge us with it.
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PostPosted: 13 May 2020, 01:06 
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Thank you for the translation and to all contributors. I was hoping to share my rare disc adventures and see other rare covers I could never find on my own, but I did the Taboo thing and talked about prices. Sorry if I offended anyone, good luck with all your laserdisc journeys, I feel it best to end this forum.
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PostPosted: 14 May 2020, 18:16 
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Prices are always determined by a demand, not just rarity. I mean, I have a number of titles that aren't and probably won't be released on DVD or blu-ray EVER, but they really aren't worth anything.

Titles like Dark Tide

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Night Rhythms

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Disney's DTV titles

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The Academy Ratio version of Lady and the Tramp

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The Fighter (AKA: Savate)

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The UFC Laserdiscs (many of the individual fights are available on DVD or UFC's online service, but not the whole show like these)

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All of these are more or less "rare" but are they worth much? Not really. I can't imagine these selling for more than $30 each since there aren't that many people clamoring for them.

And there are some titles that aren't really rare at all, like some adult titles I've sold on Ebay that sold for over $100 each via bidding wars when I started the bidding at $15

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It all really depends on how much someone wants it really!
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PostPosted: 25 May 2020, 10:08 
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pokefraker wrote:
If you want some rare discs I can unload some Ford Dealership LD's or some blank RLV's on you if you'd like.

I'm fairly certain there's less than 50 of the Blank RLV's still in existence, unless someone finds a warehouse of them and hopefully the Nimbus lvdr 610 that haunts my dreams.
I'm working on a "one of every format" video media collection and have been on the lookout for an RLV. I don't care if it's blank, has something on it, or is even playable--just a display piece.

Which is to say, if you (or someone else) has an RLV you'd be willing to part with, I'd be very appreciative to hear ballpark what they might go for. I probably can't afford it now (just broke the bank on an HD-MAC prototype disc), but would be nice to know how much I'll need to save up.
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pokefraker wrote:
If you want some rare discs I can unload some Ford Dealership LD's or some blank RLV's on you if you'd like.

I'm fairly certain there's less than 50 of the Blank RLV's still in existence, unless someone finds a warehouse of them and hopefully the Nimbus lvdr 610 that haunts my dreams.
I'm working on a "one of every format" video media collection and have been on the lookout for an RLV. I don't care if it's blank, has something on it, or is even playable--just a display piece.

Which is to say, if you (or someone else) has an RLV you'd be willing to part with, I'd be very appreciative to hear ballpark what they might go for. I probably can't afford it now (just broke the bank on an HD-MAC prototype disc), but would be nice to know how much I'll need to save up.


Now that I've gotten the footage off of my RLV's I'm fine with parting with one of them. They have some footage from a early video conferencing company. Feel free to message me and I'll give you a ballpark estimate.
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