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 Post subject: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 02 Jan 2021, 19:58 
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Does the player make a difference on a fat tube tv? Right now I have my LX-H670 hooked up to one of my fat tube tvs. However, I notice while the picture looks more high def obviously because it's a lower resolution tv for a lower resolution player in the ld player that I notice some weird smearing effect or I think that's what it's called. There's a weird look to the picture. I tried my ld player on a Sylvania and Sharp tv. This annoying effect was shown on both tvs. I thought maybe the Sylvania one was too old and causing this issue with the picture. I was completely wrong.Tho the pixels are more noticeable on the Sylvania over the Sharp. I believe this Sylvania tv might be slightly bigger than the Sharp tv which is probably why the pixels are more pronounced or maybe it's using different technology to get the picture. Also, my Sharp tv must have some mild damage to the upper left side of the tv because it produces more of a purple color in that area. I believe that happens when a speaker might have been too close to the tv. I think I was told that in the past.
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 02 Jan 2021, 23:02 
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Probably your TVs just have issues. Panasonic are known for being low smear players and if anything CRTs will mask this issue usually, and LCDs usually make it seem worse. Have you tried a VCR on the same TVs?

Is “fat tube” the same thing as “tube”?
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 01:29 
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Thinks he's being cool saying fat tube, its not a beer or tire its a CRT TV, no such thing as thin tube..........

Its just a tube TV, CRT tube. please use proper terminology.
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 02:32 
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@rein-o, i know you are probably right, and the OP is just using some kind of "slang" to describe the TV... BUT, when flatscreen's were first introduced, CRT manufacturers first tried to compete by actually making "slim" and "ultra slim" CRTs! Later they would just give up and make their own non-crts.

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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 02:57 
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Yes, I'm jumping the gun but just can't stand the slang that nobody else uses, almost like the one who would try to get 5.1 on their headphones
if you ever saw those posts.
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 03:15 
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rein-o wrote:
Yes, I'm jumping the gun but just can't stand the slang that nobody else uses, almost like the one who would try to get 5.1 on their headphones
if you ever saw those posts.


Have you ever seen jesuslovesgood and trippletopper in the same place? No? Really makes you think. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 04:13 
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Tubes can look funny if they are out of calibration on some level and a smear look could be some alignment in the yoke. My mom used to have this awful 13" Sanyo that had at least one color bleed out that created what looked liked a smear effect (also had terrible pitch size that made it hard to discern fine detail).

For CRT rear projection, a smear like affect is very common when the convergence is off but this is not really a huge issue as long as one is aware of how to access the convergence settings to realign it (even better w/ later models that had 64 and 72 point convergence to cover the entire screen).

As for discoloration on a corner, this is due to a magnetic field (usually an un-shielded speaker) getting too close. This can sometimes be fixed by using a degausing coil (or even a VHS tape eraser) and waving it in front of the tube in a circular motion with the TV on to clear it out. However, if it's really been pulled too much by the magnetic field, it can be permanently damaged and nothing will fix it.

Moving on to the "fat tube" descriptor, I guess we can assume the author meant a deep tube (or not). In any case, CRT's were already getting more shallow in depth starting around 1984 when Mitsubishi introduced the first 35" tube TV. This had to be done since the greatest limitation to selling these heavy suckers would be the width of a doorway and you don't want to limit how many of these can be sold if you want to attain economies of scale to lower the cost over time.

Anyway... sorry if I'm sounding like the Cliff Claven of lddb.com :roll:.


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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 04:32 
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gypsy wrote:
rein-o wrote:
Yes, I'm jumping the gun but just can't stand the slang that nobody else uses, almost like the one who would try to get 5.1 on their headphones
if you ever saw those posts.


Have you ever seen jesuslovesgood and trippletopper in the same place? No? Really makes you think. :lol:

:think: :wtf: :silent:
I know right.

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If you use CRTs and plan to move them even not near speakers then you need one of these.

You can also use them to magnetize your screwdrivers too.
I used a tape eraser to do the same when I used them back in the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 03 Jan 2021, 16:58 
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ldfan wrote:
a smear like affect is very common when the convergence is off

This is what I was thinking.
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2021, 18:03 
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"Fat Tube TVs"?

Love to know what would constitute a tube TV that isn't fat?

I guess one of those old B/W Predicta TVs would be, right?

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Then again I did mess with some of the newbs on the Laserdisc Forever group on FB, when someone asked "What do you do to get a better LD picture on your flatscreen TV?"

I responded, "Well, if you're using a Sony WEGA or Panasonic TAU TV, which are technically 'flatscreen TVs' just plug in the LD player with a composite cable and enjoy."

I enjoyed the responses of "THAT'S NOT A FLATSCREEN TV YOU MORON!!!"--and then pointed out that the screens of these CRTs are flat, "therefore it is a flatscreen TV."

I could tell their heads were exploding all over their iPhones.
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 Post subject: Re: Am I experiencing smearing on fat tube tvs?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2021, 22:53 
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elahrairrah wrote:

Then again I did mess with some of the newbs on the Laserdisc Forever group on FB, when someone asked "What do you do to get a better LD picture on your flatscreen TV?"

I responded, "Well, if you're using a Sony WEGA or Panasonic TAU TV, which are technically 'flatscreen TVs' just plug in the LD player with a composite cable and enjoy."

I enjoyed the responses of "THAT'S NOT A FLATSCREEN TV YOU MORON!!!"--and then pointed out that the screens of these CRTs are flat, "therefore it is a flatscreen TV."

I could tell their heads were exploding all over their iPhones.


I don't think I could handle this facebook group lol.
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